Comments on: Adobe Flex Hourly Billing Rates (via HotGigs) http://seantheflexguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/ Sean Moore - Software Developer, Digital Musician, Arduino Hacker Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:57:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: burns http://seantheflexguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/comment-page-1/#comment-3077 burns Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:38:58 +0000 http://seantheflashguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/#comment-3077 Hi everyone. I'm originally from the US, but have been living in Germany the past 3 years. Unfortunately here, it seems Flash/Flex developers get around €30-€40/hour. I've also been offered this in France too. Probably because Europe is more social as opposed to commercial, many companies simply don't pay high wages for freelancers, because a) they can always find someone who's desperate for the money b) they offer better rates to full-time employess because full-time employess pay way more taxes (like 45%), whereas freelancers something around 25%. Of course one can get lucky, and be someone in the Television business's bitch, and solely do fast-past, high-paying projects, and then we're looking at 70-90€/hr. Although I had one instance where I had to fix some bugs in Flash program overnight, and billed it out at 200€/hr. Hi everyone.

I’m originally from the US, but have been living in Germany the past 3 years. Unfortunately here, it seems Flash/Flex developers get around €30-€40/hour. I’ve also been offered this in France too. Probably because Europe is more social as opposed to commercial, many companies simply don’t pay high wages for freelancers, because

a) they can always find someone who’s desperate for the money
b) they offer better rates to full-time employess because full-time employess pay way more taxes (like 45%), whereas freelancers something around 25%.

Of course one can get lucky, and be someone in the Television business’s bitch, and solely do fast-past, high-paying projects, and then we’re looking at 70-90€/hr.

Although I had one instance where I had to fix some bugs in Flash program overnight, and billed it out at 200€/hr.

]]> By: Carrie http://seantheflexguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/comment-page-1/#comment-2346 Carrie Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:47:58 +0000 http://seantheflashguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/#comment-2346 Any thoughts on average yearly salary for a Flex Developer in NYC? Any thoughts on average yearly salary for a Flex Developer in NYC?

]]> By: Dustin http://seantheflexguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/comment-page-1/#comment-1494 Dustin Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:39:05 +0000 http://seantheflashguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/#comment-1494 As most have already said it is right in line with what we charge. However, for Adobe there are a lot more of these people around so the the amount should be less then that of a Flex developer. At MCWSoftware we are well diverse in our software development skilss but our going rate for all is 80.00$ an hour. Dustin MCWSoftware.com As most have already said it is right in line with what we charge. However, for Adobe there are a lot more of these people around so the the amount should be less then that of a Flex developer. At MCWSoftware we are well diverse in our software development skilss but our going rate for all is 80.00$ an hour.

Dustin

MCWSoftware.com

]]> By: flex adddict http://seantheflexguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/comment-page-1/#comment-1332 flex adddict Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:42:20 +0000 http://seantheflashguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/#comment-1332 first of all if i was paying a developer to build an air app and i found out that they did not use flex. I would imediately question the price. so if you expect to build air apps in html/js or just plain flash and charge the same fee as a flex developer i think you screwing your client and our industry. there is a reason why people are prepared to pay a higher fee for flex developers. i am tierd of hearing flash developers run down flex because they can't seem to understand why people are prepared to pay more for a flex developer than a flash developer. first of all if i was paying a developer to build an air app and i found out that they did not use flex. I would imediately question the price.

so if you expect to build air apps in html/js or just plain flash and charge the same fee as a flex developer i think you screwing your client and our industry.

there is a reason why people are prepared to pay a higher fee for flex developers.

i am tierd of hearing flash developers run down flex because they can’t seem to understand why people are prepared to pay more for a flex developer than a flash developer.

]]> By: Sean http://seantheflexguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/comment-page-1/#comment-1305 Sean Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:08:27 +0000 http://seantheflashguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/#comment-1305 Hello, We are currently looking for a candidate with Adobe Flex,Oracle and VB.Net experience for a contract position in Atlanta.Please let us know if you know someone who has all those combinations ! Thanks Sean Hello,

We are currently looking for a candidate with Adobe Flex,Oracle and VB.Net experience for a contract position in Atlanta.Please let us know if you know someone who has all those combinations !

Thanks
Sean

]]> By: Adi http://seantheflexguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/comment-page-1/#comment-940 Adi Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:26:58 +0000 http://seantheflashguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/#comment-940 Hey Sean, First time on your blog and found it great. have added you on Gtalk,,hope to see you sometimes. Thanks, Adi Hey Sean,

First time on your blog and found it great. have added you on Gtalk,,hope to see you sometimes.
Thanks,
Adi

]]> By: NewToFlex http://seantheflexguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/comment-page-1/#comment-939 NewToFlex Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:29:06 +0000 http://seantheflashguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/#comment-939 As a new Flex developer (longtime Java) where are you guys finding the Flex gigs at? As a new Flex developer (longtime Java) where are you guys finding the Flex gigs at?

]]> By: AJLogo http://seantheflexguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/comment-page-1/#comment-938 AJLogo Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:09:41 +0000 http://seantheflashguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/#comment-938 Not only is an AIR developer different than a Flex Developer, I think there are at least 3 classes of Flex developers. 1. MXML Drag, drop and wire (uses components) 2. AS3 programmers (recent Java, OOP converts) ( and who may shun drag and drop) 3. AS3 component makers that understand-the-MXML-world-and-enable type (1) 3.5 Those with good Web Services/PHP/RAILS/CF/DB skills 4. Those who know FLASH (layers timeline tween video ) and can build and import assets into FLex there; with combinations we're over 10....... 'I can do AIR' probably means a couple orthogonal and geometric skills Not only is an AIR developer different than a Flex Developer, I think there are at least 3 classes of Flex developers.

1. MXML Drag, drop and wire (uses components)
2. AS3 programmers (recent Java, OOP converts) ( and who may shun drag and drop)
3. AS3 component makers that understand-the-MXML-world-and-enable type (1)
3.5 Those with good Web Services/PHP/RAILS/CF/DB skills
4. Those who know FLASH (layers timeline tween video ) and can build and import assets into FLex

there; with combinations we’re over 10…….

‘I can do AIR’ probably means a couple orthogonal and geometric skills

]]> By: Flex developer’s hourly salaries « Mazharhasan’s Blog http://seantheflexguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/comment-page-1/#comment-937 Flex developer’s hourly salaries « Mazharhasan’s Blog Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:53:20 +0000 http://seantheflashguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/#comment-937 [...] currently hourly rates for Flex Developers. When he posted it originally, the rates were between $60-80 in just a matter of a few days however, the rates went through the [...] [...] currently hourly rates for Flex Developers. When he posted it originally, the rates were between $60-80 in just a matter of a few days however, the rates went through the [...]

]]> By: nicemandan http://seantheflexguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/comment-page-1/#comment-934 nicemandan Sun, 06 Jan 2008 22:29:28 +0000 http://seantheflashguy.com/blog/2007/11/30/adobe-flex-hourly-billing-rates-via-hotgigs/#comment-934 Depends how you're contracting yourself out. If I was a registered business, then yes, I'd charge over $100 per hour as I'm taking overheads off that. If I was doing freelance, especially if it's an after hours addition to my fulltime job, then $60-$80 would be my fee. Agencies would charge about $150 per hour, but they usually put a few people on a project and it's (usually) done quicker. So as a sole trader I believe it's best to charge 1/2 - 3/4 of agency fee's to stand a chance of getting a job instead of an agency. Depends how you’re contracting yourself out. If I was a registered business, then yes, I’d charge over $100 per hour as I’m taking overheads off that. If I was doing freelance, especially if it’s an after hours addition to my fulltime job, then $60-$80 would be my fee.

Agencies would charge about $150 per hour, but they usually put a few people on a project and it’s (usually) done quicker. So as a sole trader I believe it’s best to charge 1/2 – 3/4 of agency fee’s to stand a chance of getting a job instead of an agency.

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